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The Herbivorous Boys of Japan

Last time in Guest_bloggers, Brett Fyfield served up a chunky-sized portion of his knowledge about all things hiragana, and what a treat that was. Like my favourite cherry pie, it oozed with flavour and aroma, and got a good number of us salivating over the intricacies of the Japanese language, and its roots. The only problem with such a brilliant opener to a new series however, was who in their right mind would want to take up the baton after such a prestigious post? Well, have no fear, my friends, for Yuko is here.

Yuko, a blogger in her own right over at An Ocean Away, seemed the perfect accompaniment. Her posts often take a direct, no nonsense approach, yet her writing style constantly cuddles your senses, illuminates your mind, and oftentimes gives you more than a little to think about. With that in mind, as she stood in the wings, waiting to go onto the C*R-h stage with her cracking post about Herbivorous Boys, I decided to ask her a few questions:

Walking onto stage to rapturous applause, she then decided to start her act with her own, special question:

There is a Japanese term I’ve seen often on the net in recent years -“Herbivorous Boys”. The term seems to pop up frequently on the media and it seems to be creating quite a controversy in Japan.

It’s been said that Maki Fukazawa, one of female business columnists in Japan, was the first person to use this term several years ago. She came up with this term to name a group of young men growing steadily in number, with specific traits. This group is made up of men who are not very eager to seek sex or love affairs, not hungry for money or climbing up the corporate ladder, and prefer a quiet, less competitive, more relaxed way of living. They are also more interested in fashion than getting buffed up. They say that about 60 percent of men in 20s and 30s in Japan fall into this category today.

This didn’t seem positive to me initially. Yet right now, I am seeing a possibility of hope in these boys, despite the weak image the term may project.

When I first heard of the term “Herbivorous Boys” of Japan, I thought to myself, “oh no… my suspicion is turning true… Japanese boys are losing their hope and ambition! “ This was due to my personal observation of the cultural conditioning for both men and women being not very positive. I was born in Japan and lived there until I was 17. I left for the US mainly because I wanted to live my life in a way that would be valuable to me as an individual, and I didn’t see it happening where I was.

Traditionally, in Japan, male children tend to be treated relatively better than female children at home, because they are the ones who would eventually bear the burden of carrying the family name, and responsibilities that come with it. It is a sort of a pay off, I feel. Once boys become men, or independent as members of the society, their lives become very controlled. Men who are to carry the family name are expected to marry to bear sons to continue the family line. Then these men become something similar to slaves, for the lack of a better word, to the society and whomever they work for, in a name of providing for the family. When these men get married, the marriage is less likely to be what they would like it to be, even if they had a chance to think about it at all. Because their way of life would be dictated largely by the standard of what the culture says a man’s life and his marriage should be.

A culture that dictates people’s way of life seldom seems to be a healthy one. Sometimes the level of confoundedness seems inhumane. That’s why it seemed very logical to me to assume, when I’d heard of the Herbivorous Boys, that it meant some men in Japan have had it and called it quits, or have become indifferent and meek. If boys who grew up watching their fathers have lost hope to search for fulfilled life, I wouldn’t be surprised. 

Yet as I learned what attitude these Herbivorous Boys seem to have, I realized the trend might not necessarily be a bad thing. When you really think about it, it may just be the beginning of a change they need in Japan, to break the old pattern of behavior by both men and women, and its long term effect in their society. The arrival of these less aggressive men just may be a catalyst to a better, healthier society.

Let me see if I can explain.

They say that these boys are very honest about what they want in life. They don’t worry about whether they are who society values. They don’t want to get married because they don’t have confidence or see the logic in supporting their family by themselves. They are honest about how they don’t actually know what marriage is supposed to be like, or what kind of father they would want to be.

I see this as a possible result of how the way their parents lived, how it didn’t make sense. These boys likely have developed their stance, as a result of the exposure to how their fathers were taught to behave. It is very possible that these fathers were unconvincing as a role model to these boys growing up. If there ever was an explanation presented as to why men and women of older generation had to live their lives the way they did, the explanation must have not been acceptable to these boys. It these speculations are true, it means that these grass-eating men of new generation are starting to open their eyes and think for themselves. Moreover, they are acting as they think.

I believe the Herbivorous Boys are what they are, because they are comfortable with setting their own value system. They don’t have to adhere to the traditional cultural values of how to be. I find this rather refreshing. I feel they have a different kind of strength, something foreign to previous generations of men.

The presence of these less aggressive men, who live by their individual set of rules may help balance out the lack of individuality and self reliance in Japanese society. The society where, so far, women don’t have it any easier than men, for they too have to become like slaves to the cultural expectation of being a perfect woman/wife.  Although there are some women who are trying to break out of the molds put upon them, there are barriers limiting their advancement in their efforts.  Well, the “Horbivorous Boys” may help eliminate those barriers.

The Herbivorous Boys’ way of life may allow young women of Japan to be largely exposed to an unconventional partnership with men. Through the exposure, women will have a chance to see value in men who are not aggressive and without tendency to lead women all the time. Some women may see that what they want is not a man with cavemen mentality who would take them by their hair and drag them around.

The Herbivorous Boys, along with those women who are willing to break out of their molds, may encourage the rest of men and women to carefully evaluate the cultural teachings and the impact it has on them. That would cause a shift in social consciousness that may counter the traditional stereotyping of men: that men are not men if they don’t aggressively hunt for women and sex, or higher position in a corporate world. That should also lead to changes in how society views women and her role.

The new breed of men and women may figure out what part of the cultural teachings to hold on to, and what part to shed. Doing so would eventually release some of the unhealthy pressure that is increasing in the society. And ultimately, through some fine tuning and growing pains, people may become accustomed to decide on their own, what life is really about, and how they would want to live it.

Psst: And if you want to be next on the C*R-h stage with your very own Guest_bloggers post, then give us a shout here. And remember, Yuko would love to hear your thoughts, so don’t forget to leave a comment below. Plus, go and visit her at home at An Ocean Away, I’m sure she’d love to invite you in for a coffee.

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Comments for “The Herbivorous Boys of Japan”

  • dnj
    American hip-hop culture on the other hand is very masculine. They dress like they are inmates in a jail, treat all women like prostitutes, and use very small vocabularies. I'll bet that this generation of herbivore men will be far more productive and leave a far greater legacy than the american thugs.
  • Not too familiar with hip hop culture but I do recognize the characteristic you talk of in some part. There are many different reasons for different boys to act a certain way. I only hope they would find out how to be truly happy.
  • Have you seen the the young boys in Japan? I spend every day with middle school boys (Ok, not the best sampling of manliness ever) and its sad how bad they act. I've seen kids go from JHS all through HS and they seem to lack any bit of drive or manliness. The only kids who do are the kids I would call "punks" who only seem to be emulating a yakuza lifestyle. But even they seem to spend to spend all their time tending their hair and makeup. Sigh...
  • I hear you. I think it would be very difficult for any young people to find a comfortable way to be, when the days consist of constant pressure applied to achieve, and exposure to unreasonable expectations from adults. At the same time some kids are treated by their parents like fragile cargo that belong to them and are not taught what's really important in life. Japan has it's strength, on the other hands I feel there are many elements in the culture that does not allow healthy growth in people.
  • caughtredhanded
    You're right, most definitely not the best sampling but I get your point. It's a far cry from how things used to be, that's for sure!
  • I'm not sure if we have the same definition of the Herbivorous Boys. To me "unaggressive" doesn't mean being irresponsible or immature. Sure there are men who doesn't function in anyway whether they are considered "manly" or not "manly". I'm not really addressing the dysfunctional group. The problem I see is that many men of previous generations were not successful in demonstrating how to live a fulfilling life that made sense to their children. Some of those children have become a part of the group they call the Herbivorous Boys in my view.
  • The problem with today's boys is that they aren't men, they never grew up. No society's men are exempt from the moral responsibility to their community and their country. Men should work! Men should take wives! Men should father children! It's that simple, and anything else is borderline criminal and can only lead to moral and spiritual degeneration, thus no exciting.
  • Every man has a sense of duty, without it he feels lost in world full of chaos and disorder. Every society has rules that govern the actions, behaviors of each person. The ' rule of law' for example. People speak out against it if too much of it interferes with their lives, but in fact it's human nature to want to be controlled by a higher and more absolute authority, so people want and even need this control. It establishes order. I'll comment on Mishima and other ideals a bit more.
  • Herbivorous men is just a misnomer for weak, ignorant, socially inept, faggish , childish, unpatriotic, men who shuck their responsibilities because they can't carry out, nor do the manly thing. They can't breed, but instead they play and socialize with other weak and ignorant herbivorous boys--- and you wonder why the population numbers are dwindling. In twenty years the Japanese male will be in the endangered species list -- and for a good reason! Where is Mishima ? All the other comments are just comments and no substance.
  • Dear McAlpine,

    Thank you for reading my post and I appreciate that you took time to leave a comment here. It is apparent that you hold certain idealism close to your heart. I respect your opinion, excluding some terms you employed to label some men.
    I’m sure there are others who feel the same way you do, especially among older generation of men in Japan, who turn their noses up to this new breed of men called the herbivorous boys.

    Mishima’s place in history is undeniable. His writing evoked much passion among some men. Even after his suicide, or should I say because of his suicide that shocked the nation, his ideals seemed to have romanced and inspired the hearts of many men since. What a satisfying life it must have been for Mishima. He was a fortunate man who got to live his ideals along with his followers.

    I’m just not convinced personally, if that’s the kind of ideals we need now. I believe that forcing a nation to march to one beat today, may cause the nation to implode, and to kill possibilities for adaptation in the future. I think that, a way for the future of Japan should serve all types of people. It should offer a potential for the expansion of outer limits in the way people think and live. And those are just MY idealistic personal views.

    I have to say, I have personally witnessed way too much misery deriving from this idea that men are supposed to act a certain way in Japan, as if each man’s value lies in appearing to be the “manly” man.

    I'd close my response by saying this from where I stand now. Show me “manly” men who have rigid ideals, regulated discipline and forcefulness… who are willing to carry all, including those who will not live by the rules. And I'll show you a world filled with those being wronged, a world with despair and discontentment, including those of the “manly” men.
  • Always interesting angle you present. I believe "The direction" or "a mandatory future" would not be a thing of reality unless there is natural energy strong enough that let it take shape. If any direction were to exist, it will exist in the collective energy of people disbursed at the same time in a way that would join together. I agree with you in that people should not be forced to march ahead toward any "pre-conceived future" . I only believe in giving positive views and see if anything would come of it, not force anyone toward "a direction".
  • I'm not sure it's something new. I think about the tendency of some, in cultures that are "squished" (having no room to move for geographic/ideological reasons), to opt out or default to eccentricity (ok, madness, if you're not the upper class) when there are no real options.

    And, when I see the eccentricity, I tend to read it more as "truth telling" about what's under that culture's shiny/perfect presentation. Under the public shell of their fathers, are there not burnt out herbivores, bereft of the true lusts? Could they be emulating their fathers' real selves?
  • I love the expression "squished"!! It reminds me of one of the drawings I did as an art student so long ago. It showed a face in a vise on it's head squeezing it, and the face is crying blood. The face is expressionless except for the eyes that are half way shut. I was trying to express how I'd felt inside for a long time.

    I think there are truths to what you said here. Before I came up with the vision that these men may be able to lead Japan toward a positive direction, I too felt that the characteristics of herbivorous boys were reflection of the society offering no choice. And yes, it is very possible that these men are what their fathers were without their iron armors. I get the impression that eccentricity may be one of extremely creative ways to keep a balance of personal happiness and "fitting" society, by disbursing of the "unwanted" energy by being different. I see it as a sign of strength in a way.

    In any case, Japan is in a process of change. What would come of it is for all of us to see. I hope to pass on the positive vision that the change could bring on more choices for people in the society.

    Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts here @lavika!!
  • I like what you say about a positive vision. It does take strength to lay aside the "auto ticket" to belonging, in order to say the truth.

    I would like to think out loud about "the way," in addition to the objective: "new Japan." Could the expectation that they might lead Japan toward a newness actually reflect a value that is part of the current way; that, as soon as "right way" is discovered, one must take up the duty to march toward it?

    Can there be strength in going backwards to reality, in sitting with the truth, in refusing to be anything but the true now, without predefined objectives to achieve, without a mandatory future?
  • See the comment below. ;)
  • Really great article!
    I don't really know much about the pressure on young Japanese people (not being Japanese), though I've read and heard about it before. From this though, I've gathered that it's pretty intense. This 'breaking from the mold' you write about sounds to me like a very good thing (I suppose I agree with your thoughts on the subject!). Personally, I think it's important that individual people shape their lives according how their eyes want to see it, instead of choosing how to live based on family history or society's expectations, or anything else (it's an issue everywhere, isn't it?).
  • Thank you megan! I'm glad you see my point of view. I believe it's true that most culture puts constraint on the way people live to a certain degree. Some more than others. The challenge here is how to maintain a healthy society while tending to happiness of each individuals. It's not an easy task, and it probably will take more than a few generations for the social conscious in Japan to shift toward the concept of "open choice". But I really would like to see it happen. It it can be done without abandoning what is unique and beautiful about Japanese culture, it would be even better.
  • Open choice has always existed in Japan on a legal level. If it's a matter of social orientation then that's a personal choice each individual has to make, which often times mean that the individual has to divorce him/herself from their own culture completely. You can't balance the two. It's already been tried. Eastern and Western thoughts/culture have never reached a balancing point.
  • I totally agree that it's about social orientation or social conscious. It's the effect of group polarization that is in question. So let me ask you this so that I can understand clearly. Are we to believe that there are no possibility of the group conscious shifting in Japan, because it never happened in the form of reaching a balancing point in Eastern and Western culture before?
  • Of course you're right Megan, and I think Yuko has really emphasised a point here, that actually attitudes in Japan are open to change and can be moulded, much like attitudes anywhere else. The problem of history and historical culture always seems to have an influence however, and in Japan these things are extremely hard to dismiss.
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